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Re: archiving on inet
Dear Jason,
I don't think you are neccissarily correct about making an archive of the
usenet. You may be correct, but I don't believe this point has been
litigated yet. Furthermore, just because something is forwarded and
something is archived I don't believe is expressly covered in copyright
law. Others could argue that postings by their very nature, when posted
become "public domain", and thus not copyrightable. I practice law, but
am not a copyright/trademark specialist. Also, as was posted earlier
someone is already making an archive of the usenet. See earlier postings.
Finally what is the tangible difference between storing usenet postings
on a hard disk for an indefinite time, or on a cd-rom, or a cd that is
re-writable, or tape or any other storage device? Not very much I would
argue.
Kirk Sheppard
[email protected]
P. O. Box 30911 "It is Better to Die on Your Feet Than to
Bethesda, MD 20824-0911 Live On Your Knees."
U.S.A.
- Emiliano Zapata
On Tue, 1 Feb 1994, Jason Zions wrote:
> So if I sell (at a profit) a netnews feed to subscribers via modem, it
> is not copyright infringement, but if I sell the same data on a CDROM,
> you cliam copyright infringement.
>
> Yep. When you're providing a netnews feed, you're acting as a node in a
> store-and-forward network. A CD-ROM is not a part of a store-and-forward
> network; it is a permanently fixed repository of information. You can't hold
> up a netnews feed in a courtroom and point at it saying "there it is"; you
> *can* do so with a CD-ROM.
>
> So I suppose you want to give some
> kind of list of what types of media are acceptable for transmitting
> netnews feeds, and which are not?
>
> A CD-ROM isn't a medium for transmitting netnews feeds; it's a permanently
> fixed copy of the contents of such a feed. Static versus dynamic; permanent,
> ephemeral. Is this hard to understand?
>
> The plain and simple fact is: When you post a message to usenet, you do
> so with the expectation that others will receive it. You can have no
> way of knowing or limiting who may get it; that is given by the nature
> of the network. Usenet news is, and is intended to be, publicly
> accessable information. If there is something you don't want
> distributed, then DON'T POST IT!
>
> Learn a little about law; while you're at it, learn a little about usenet.
> When you post a message to usenet, you have tossed it into a flood-routed
> store-and-forward network. You implicitly give permission for copying
> appropriate to the propagation of messages in that network. You neither
> grant permission nor withhold permission for Fair Use. Everything else,
> though, is not granted unless explicitly granted.
>
> If I post a message, under the terms of the Berne Convention and current US
> copyright law, a recipient was not granted the right to print a copy and
> publish it in a book. What makes you think I granted them permission to
> publish a copy in a CD-ROM? The only permission I granted was that they
> could (a) read it and (b) forward it via usenet protocols.
>
> Jason
>