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Re: Detweiler abuse again
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On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
> Derek Atkins writes:
>
> > I disagree. While I can honestly say that I don't like most Detweiler
> > posts, I feel that he is showing us the possibility of how remailers
> > can (and are) being abused. I think censorship is the wrong answer.
> > I think there needs to be some accountability, even if it is anonymous
> > accountability.
>
> It's really not censorship for Hal or any other remailer operator to
> say _his_ machines, accounts, reputation, etc., will be used to mail
> death threats to whitehouse.gov, for example, or mailbombs to
> newsgroups and mailing lists.
While it is not censorship as such, it rather seems against our stated goals as
cypherpunks to advocate such filtering...not because of what it blocks from our
own sites, but it _does_ affect those downstream. To give an example of why
this is important, last July (June?) the University of Canterbury in
Christchurch New Zealand began filtering all alt.sex.* newspostings from their
site. Well this in itself was perhaps harmless, the topology of NZ's corner of
the net is such that as a result _all_ net-sites in the entire of NZ's South
Island lost these newsgroups. While I'm not saying that the University were
outside of their rights, we must keep the wider issues in view at all times.
Another key point is that we not let our own personal feelings interfere with
our political actions. I'm sure most of us here were offended by the
suggestions in the heat of the anonymity debate that all anonymous postings to
newsgroups be killed...yet here are cypherpunks advocating the filtering of all
Detweiler and Detweiler-seeming posts. Sure, the guy's a prick, but should we
let him turn us into fascists?
Jim Wise
[email protected]
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