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Re: Breaking the NSA
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Tony.Gurnick@nzdairy.co.nz wrote:
>If you really want to test NSA. Encrypt some crypto code
>with pgp in an overseas public key(IE: non-us) then email the
>code to someone out of the us. This way you will find out 1 of 2
>things.
> 1. That pgp is unbreakable by the NSA
> - Rsa with fairly log keys take so much work the nsa
> cant crack it with huge computers. This is a good
> thing
Not that easy. They would just crack the code and *another*
acronym based agency would come up with a different reason to
seize you and your computer. It would seem unrelated to anyone
but *you* since you would know what you did but would have no
way to prove that your original infraction is why you are doin'
time. Hope that makes some sense.
>
> - Idea, even though it is new, is a secure algorithm
> for the above reasons
>
Same argument...no one would ever know either way. Until you got
out in about 100 years.
>
> - You wont get in trouble as you are only sending
> random bits out of the country not code
If it isn't something *really good* they probably wouldn't come after
you anyway.
>
> 2. PGP is BREAKABLE by the NSA (OUCH!)
> - You get in deep shit!
>
>
> or
>
> 3. PGP is breakable by the NSA but they dont tell anyone! (HMMM)
#3 I can agree with. I don't think that NSA would tip their hand
and let on to us that they can read our stuff. At least, not directly.
>
> - Well this would be an interesting one!
>
> - Since they are the ones that imposed the ITAR rule in the
> first place (them or the us gov) they have a prob! If
> they knew you were exporting crypto because they cracked
> pgp they could not convict you as that would imply they cracked
> pgp and they would tell the whole world what they can &
> cannot crack. It would be a big bummer for RSA and IDEA
> but at least we`d know!
One more thing. Don't you think that they subscribe to the Cypherpunk
list just to see this kind of logic?
BTW....I ain't one of 'em, and I wouldn't tell if I was. :)
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