> > Besides, if you hack FV you've got the money :-) Uh, no you don't. I can't think of any ways you could hack FV and actually make money at it, because in the end the credit card would just get a chargeback. -- sameer Voice: 510-601-9777 Community ConneXion FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.org/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.org