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[Yadda Yadda Yadda] Re: What can the judge do to me?
On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:
As I predicted, Mr. Bell attributes positions to me I never took.
> At 07:51 PM 4/15/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote:
> take the different position that ALL fines are ultimately "punitive"? That
> position is apparently not _excluded_ by the constituion, which means that
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> at best, you might try to argue that your position is _allowed_ by the
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> constitution.
Woah, nice transition. "That position" suddenly becomes "my position."
Tell me, what is my position? I never expressed an opinion.
> >A contempt fine is
> >considered civil and remedial if it either coerces a defendant into
> >compliance with a court order
>
> You do love those circular arguments, don't you!
^^^ ^^^
The above is the argument of the court, not my argument. I never
expressed an opinion on the argument.
> Hint: If the position you support is true, then you should be able to show
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> Is that a satisfactory justication for your position?
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What was my position again?
> Apparently, it wasn't really necessary, and thus, any justifications based
> on the claim that it was necessary were dishonest. As are your
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> justifications today, on a somewhat different issue.
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My justifications? Where?
>
> I've long pointed out that your own arguments self-destruct, and perhaps
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I'm making none here.
> >By 'wrong' you mean doesn't agree with you. I'm sure precident and it's
> >rationale means little to you.
> That's spelled "precedent." But why am I telling you this?
Because English is my third (or fourth depending on how you count them)
language and I don't bother with spell checkers? How well do you spell in
German, Alemanish or Estonian?
As always, I never expressed opinions on the courts view. You asked for
justifications, I gave you the court's. I've not commented on my own
view.
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