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Re: CS First Boston lawsuit
On Sun, 18 Aug 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
> At 3:29 AM 8/19/96, Alan Horowitz wrote:
> >I suspect they are trying to get a judgement against "John Doe", in the
> >hopes of tracking him down later.
> >
> >Actually, if I had a sizeable judgement against such a John Doe, I could
> >probably find a private detective who would find the dude for a
> >contingent fee. Wow, a whole new class of factoring (commerce definition)
> >opens up. Get me a lawyer....
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> Lawyers out there can and should correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
> believe either the criminal or civil justice system has the concept of a
> "John Doe" trial! The ability to have the advice of an attorney, to
> confront one's accusers, cross-examine witnesses, and mount a defense, and
> all that constitutional stuff. Rather hard to do if the trial is in the
> past tense.
>
> Can you cite an example of such a "John Doe" trial in the U.S.?
Not exactly, but judgements against John Doe's or even "$956,334.34" are
common. Typically they are default judgements where a property seizure is
involved.
"The United States of America v. $534,444.00" and "The United States of
AMerica v. One Red Porsche" is a common theme.
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> (There may be trials "in absentia," more so in other countries than in the
> U.S., but not when no persons have been identified at all!)
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> --Tim May, who hopes he is never identified as the "John Doe" indicted,
> tried, convicted, and sentenced in 1979 in Washington County, Oregon, for
> the crime of unlawful foddering in a public place.
>
> Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software!
> We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed.
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