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Subject:       Re: It is good that anon.penet.fi has been closed!

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On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:

> Yes, subject says it all. anon.penet.fi was a whole lot worse than
> cypherpunks remailers. It provided clueless users with no real security,
> because it stored return addresses and did not use chaining and
> encryption.

It also provided anonymity to many people who needed it.  I think that many
people who need anonymity will probably just learn faking mail and news
headers.  Many people just don't want to deal with cpunk remailers.  OTOH, I
agree that this might actually force many people with Penet addresses to learn
about more secure remailers.  In this way, the closing of anon.penet.fi could
be looked upon as a Good Thing.  However, as long as there is no easy way for
Windoze and Mac users to use secure remailers, users will sooner resort to
fake-mailing then learning how to use cpunk remailers.  People that need a
pseudonym address to use on various support groups can get them from other,
equally insecure, remailers.

- -- Mark

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