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Re: Paradox: NO OPPRESSION IN AMERICA
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Well I'm just grumpy enough right now to tear this apart... :)
On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Douglas B. Renner wrote:
> Those of you who took Logic 1001 will recall the paradox known as
> "The Heap" which goes like this:
>
> 1. A single grain of sand does not constitute a heap of sand.
An debatable but valid assumption.
> 2. You can create a heap from a non-heap by adding a single grain of sand.
How is a non-heap defined? 1 grain? 0 grains? If (2) is to be true, it
can't be 0, since you assumed (1), so a non-heap must be 1 grain.
> 3. Therefore, there is *NO SUCH THING* as a heap of sand.
Huh? How do you draw that conclusion? (1) and (2) are not contradictory in
any way. You said 1 grain is not a heap, but >1 is. Fine. Valid way of
defining a heap/non-heap of sand. Nothing to do with (3).
>
> You with me here? Okay, this is important, because the public actually does
> think like this:
Very debatable. Very general.
>
> 1. Our current society in America is not oppressive. (generally accepted)
Very debatable.
>
> 2. You cannot change a non-oppressive society into an oppressive society
> by removing one liberty from its citizens. (also generally accepted)
Rubbish. If the government removes all liberties at once, that's
oppressive, but if they do it one at a time, it's not?
>
> 3. Therefore, it is not possible for America to become an oppressive society.
>
More Rubbish. Not only are your assumptions flawed, but the heap
argument and the oppression argument are entirely unrelated.
Nothing personal, mind you. :)
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