Re: Rogue Governments Issuing Policy Tokens

[Jim Ray <jmr@shopmiami.com>]

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To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Date: Wed Nov 20 22:12:52 1996
Hal wrote:

<snip>

> I can't see the U.S. allowing Libya and similar countries to create
>  policy
> tokens.  The whole point of this exercise is to prevent these countries
> from being able to use strong crypto.  So they will certainly not be on
> the approved list.

I think Tim was referring to a "Panama" or "'80s Iraq" situation, rather 
than a stable enemy state like Libya. Unless the hardware has some way of 
making itself have a short lifetime, there will be problems when U.S. policy 
changes or when one is stolen.

<snip>

> Companies which try to sell computers with these
>  chips
> in them risk getting a "big brother inside" (to use Tim's very effective
> slogan) reputation.  I think this initiative is going nowhere.

Amen. Sometimes these policy initiatives seem so ham-handed that the 
suspicious side of me wonders "what they're really up to." They can't 
seriously think they can control this any more than they can control the 
ocean, at least not without an awesome (even for this century) world-wide 
police-state.
JMR

P.S. Please, everyone, try not to feed the flamefest-knights, so they will 
someday (hopefully) go away. Creative killfiling can only do so much.


Regards, Jim Ray
DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy

One of the "legitimate concerns of law enforcement" seems to be
that I was born innocent until proven guilty and not the other
way around. -- me

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