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spam as DOS
On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 01:38:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote:
> > > How about if it is an employee of yours, using your computer
> > > equipment, that sent the message, in explict contradition to your
> > > companies stated policy?
> >
> > Use a retraction server (David's project)
>
> I wonder if there is a problem of inconsistent levels in this debate...
>
> At one level, many people on this list are in favour of infrastructure
> such as Usenet and the Web carrying all information without filtering with
> respect to content, to avoid censorship, oppression and so on.
>
> At another level, almost everybody has personal preferences as to what
> they consider worthwhile information, what they want to read, what they
> want their children/employees to read, and what they want their
> privately-owned hardware to be used to carry.
>
> At the content-free level, cancels are information just like anything
> else, merely a stream of octets. By definition, they _can't_ be morally
> wrong at that amoral level where we talk only about whether
> store-and-forward works properly or not. Cancels, "forged" or otherwise
> are just a tool, just bytes.
>
> Within a particular value system, you might agree or disagree with a
> particular cancel, or with the idea in general. It's easy to configure a
> news server or reader to conform to your preferences, just people who hate
> spam are free to ignore it. At this level, you can make judgements as to
> which uses of that tool are justifiable. (Cancels by sysadmins,
> anti-spammers, spammers, system owners, governments, parents, copyright
> lawyers or nobody at all.)
Very good point.
The problem exists at both levels, however. At the "content-free"
level the equivalent of spam is a flooding denial of service attack.
But thinking about it at the "content free" level puts the issues in a
much better focus, for me. You can note the following:
1) at a "content-free" level filters, by definition simply
don't work. [They don't really work for spam, either, of
course.]
2) the issue is fundamentally bandwidth consumption [with spam
the bandwidth is human attention bandwidth]
3) it's a damn hard problem, and no good solution exists
4) there is an analog to e-postage in QOS routing, but the
problem of flooding is still not solved.
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