Award Announcement / Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole

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If Hettinga was Japanese, the author would be a racist!

We Jurgar Din wrote via the bureau42 Anonymous Remailer :
> 
> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 at 11:27:12 -0500 Bob Hettinga had an epileptic
> fit induced by excessive pressure in his swollen head and vomited
> forth:
> 
> > Tim can make it as "repeatedly clear" as he wants after
> > the fact. However, he has, on several occasions, made
> > threats against people with more guns than he has, and,
> > sooner or later, they're gonna
> 
> Aw, bullshit, Bob! You were wrong when you started this fuckfest
> and you're digging yourself deeper and deeper with every post.
> There was a time when I thought you had a brain and a modicum of
> common sense, but you've thoroughly disabused me of that fantasy.
> I once visited your website and thought, "This guy is cool!"
> Geez, I'm embarrassed to admit that now.
> 
> You've taken Tim's comments out of context and done yeoman work
> for the enemy. If (or when) they ever find an excuse to bother
> him, they won't be showing _his_ posts to the jury -- they'll
> be showing _yours_, you clueless fuckwit.
> 
> This is the age of "social convictions," in case you haven't
> noticed because you've been living in an e-cave. They don't
> prove cases anymore; they show that you're a "bad actor."
> It's all done with PR, whether totally in the press or partly
> in a courtroom. The first piece of paper the feds send out
> when they attack someone is a press release. The victim often
> first learns he's in trouble when the reporters call.
> 
> > ...lucidity, but who has gotten increasingly radicalized
> > and militant at exactly the same time the world is figuring
> > out that his earlier...
> 
> Maybe you're too young, child. The world is not figuring things
> out fast enough or on a large enough scale to offset the
> accelerating advance of the state. Tim has been around long
> enough to have figured out that the statists have pissed away
> his entire lifetime making him wait for things to get "figured
> out." You have no respect for your elders, who have gotten
> bored over more things than you have yet learned. You should
> be spanked and made to sit in the corner until you can behave.
> 
> > It's almost as if Tim keeps trying to top himself, with
> > some newer and more grandiose claim about the impending
> > collapse of the world as we know it. It just ain't so.
> > The world don't work that way.
> 
> Tell that to the Athenians and hundreds if not thousands of
> groups since who have been surprised when their worlds
> collapsed. Tell that to the Austrians and Germans of the
> 1920's. Tell that to the piles of bones in Cambodia. You
> suffer from the subjectivity of youth. You think that the
> universe revolves around your time and space and that those
> are unique in human experience. You're wrong. The times into
> which we are headed have every promise of being the very most
> "interesting" in human history. I for one won't feel a bit
> compensated by your future whines that you "wuz wrong!"
> 
> If you had two brain cells to rub together you would have
> taken your lumps in Tim's first brushoff and shut up. He's
> got a right to his position and you haven't got shit. What
> you will have is a place in someone's black book if it turns
> out that your characterizations of Tim's posts ever turn out
> to be fuel for the enemy's meatgrinder. Ignorance, even
> stupidity, are pardonable if not too tightly connected to
> the motor mouth. You should consider that the damage you may
> do could far exceed the value of whatever pride it is that
> impels you to continue to articulate the government's ideal
> (and fatuous) arguments in this matter.
> 
> > And, Monty, here's another fact: the world isn't going to
> > end on Thanksgiving Day, much less at the beginning of the
> > millennium.
> 
> Only a complete fool would be that sure.
> 
> > Armed storm troopers are probably *not* going to decend
> > on the denizens of this list and haul them off to newly
> > built gulags in the Rockies somewhere, or whatever the
> > current fantasy of the moment is.
> 
> Really, if you just stopped and thought about it a moment,
> there are only a very few regular posters to the list. All
> of them could be hauled off without making a ripple. We are
> meanwhile playing war footsie with Iraq after having spent
> the better part of five years doing Clinton's best to
> disable, demoralize, cripple, and mismanage the military.
> We're a few press conferences away from being in way over
> our heads with a left-wing android in charge. Is this your
> picture of stable times and a secure Constitution? Do you
> seriously doubt that there are people in the Administration,
> at least in the bureaucracy, who wouldn't like to be able to
> make a few gratuitous PR linkages in a national emergency
> and have an excuse to get rid of the C-P annoyance once and
> for all? Did you miss entirely the personal destruction
> wreaked on Jim Bell _without_ a national emergency? Would you
> be utterly shocked to learn some day soon that you, too, have
> ordered odd chemicals from someplace or other over the last
> few years? Hey! It could _happen_!
> 
> > However, to say that they're coming to take us all away
> > on Thanksgiving, or anytime soon, is more than a little
> > paranoid, and,
> 
> No, Grasshopper, it is just a _little_ paranoid to suggest
> that it might be a possibility. You're putting words in
> Tim's mouth again. You can probably assume that if Tim
> were really convinced that that were going to happen, they
> would find only an inflatable Tim sitting in front of a
> 'puter relaying email through an indirect dial link. Or
> something like that. He's just concerned. I'm concerned.
> Anyone with a brain above room temperature is concerned.
> Ugly things are in the wind.
> 
> > to attempt to force a confrontation in hopes of
> > preciptating a revolution, or even gratuitous publicity
> 
> Why, Grasshopper! He's done no such thing and you well know it.
> You are the one making such characterizations (as if any of
> us needed that). Had I the time and the interest, I would
> check what archives there are to see if you did the same
> favor for Jim Bell.  Fuckwit!
> 
> Well, there's more, but your time's up. See you in the camps.
> 
> We Jurgar Din