Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)

["Brian B. Riley" <brianbr@together.net>]

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On 12/9/97 3:57 PM, Jrbl Pookah (lists@castle5.castlec.com)  passed
this wisdom:

>>Jim Choate writes:
>>> 
>>>  To the best of my knowledge no phone company anywhere
>>> will allow a customer to purchase service without identifying
>>> themselves to the phone company. Please let me know if there is 
>>>  such a beast somewhere.
>
> Hmm. Excuse the interruption into your conversation here, but I've 
>signed up (in the past) for long-distance service under an assumed 
>name, on a telephone line that I held in a different assumed name. 
>At least in Cincinnati, OH, the phone company didn't (doesn't?) 
>really care, as long as they had a place to send the bills. When 
>they asked for my SSN, I simply told them I wouldn't give it to 
>them, and offered my date-of-birth - which I lied about. They 
>didn't mind.  

 ... hmmmm ... for my .02 ... isn't the entrie arguemnt rather
academic/ Thje simple matter is regradless of whose  name it is in,
its tied to a physical location where sooner or later you can be
apprehended/discovered. 

 A more reasonable question might be has anyone secured cellular
service without some serious credit/identity queries? If one can work
out he details of getting payment to them (they seem to care little
about what goes on so long as they are paid!) that preserves
anonymity, as well as keeping on the move to defy the cell trackers
then maybe there is some anonymity to be achieved.

 ... hey anybody designed a 'crowds' for cell phones???

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