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And while we are on the subject, nothing gets to me quite so easily
as self-styled educated men who cannot spell or form a grammatically
correct sentence. You attempt to flame those whose logic is faulty
and come off looking like ignorant boobs.
If you had done a little more reading in your past you would be able
to recognize your own poor ability to communicate yet you rail on
about the cluelessness of AOLers who haven't read the constitution.
My question is how is it that you are able to read it?
I have pity for those who are products of the public school system
but they have an excuse. What excuse do computer programmers have?
They are forced to think logically yet so often refuse to do so in
matters of real life. They often fall back upon the constitutionality
of a particular concept yet haven't tested it with the power of their
own sense of truth and justice.
Such is the substance of lawyers and politicians.
I recently saw a posting about right v. wrong or good v. evil. These
are subjective terms as any good semanticist knows. But what is real
and what is unreal is a much more difficult thing to determine. It
requires rigorous thinking without prejudice or belief getting in the
way.
As to law. The first of the Bill of Rights says:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If you are going to quote something, do it fully and accurately. It
isn't that hard and if you don't have a copy of the constitution
laying around then either get one or keep your damn mouth shut until
you know what you are talking about.
No, the words "seperation of church and state" do not appear but then
neither does "privacy", but it is damn well implied by the 4th
amendment.
Those self-righteous pricks who want bible reading in the schools and
rail against those who recite the 1st amendment either lack
understanding of the term "reading" or are being dishonest by
insisting that disallowing teachers to read the bible to students is
wrong and that the constitution needs to be amended. Anyone with any
honesty would realize that the first amendment doesn't prohibit bible
reading by students or even bible study in a historical context. It
merely prohibits tax-paid teachers from "respecting an establishment
of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;". If I see
just one more bible-thumping zealot message about "would you care to
show us where "seperation of church and state" is to be found in the
constitution/bill of rights?" I will be tempted to take him out in
the parking lot and pound sand into the parts which are unaccustomed
to this substance.
I am all for separation of school and state. Show me where in the
constitution/bill of rights everyone is entitled to a theft/tax
funded education. This would solve church and state in schools
wouldn't it. If you don't like your kids getting a non-religious
education from the godless state, you are free to pull them out and
put them into a private school of your choice. But of course it isn't
your kids you are worried about is it? It's all those other peoples
kids that aren't getting the benefit of the word of the one true
Christian god that you want to help isn't it!
Hypocrisy is the Vaseline(tm) of political intercourse!
Edwin E. Smith
At 08:39 PM 9/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>At 7:27 PM -0700 9/15/98, Jaeger wrote:
>>hey, would you care to show us where "seperation of church and
state" is
>>to be found in the constitution/bill of rights? absolute right and
>
>Gee, check out the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Also
the first
>item in the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law respecting
the
>establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof..."
>(from memory, so don't bother me with minor wording corrections.)
>
>By standard convention, this is also referred to as "separation of
church
>and state."
>
>As with the clueless AOLers yakking about an "Assimov" story they
read a
>couple of years ago in the 5th grade, you bozos need to get educated
and
>spend a minute or two thinking before writing.
>
>
>--Tim May
>
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