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REMAILER: really anon?
- To: [email protected]
- Subject: REMAILER: really anon?
- From: [email protected]
- Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 16:21:06 -0500
- Comments: This message DID NOT originate from the address listed inthe From line. It was remailed by an automated remailing serviceoperating at that address. Please report problems to<[email protected]> with the subject header of PROBLEM.
- Remailed-By: Anonymous <[email protected]>
If you can trace the origin (sender) of this message please send me mail
personally rather than to the list. I'm using my favorite remailer here
and I want to make sure it's working right.
I have sent mail to the below sites as a test for anonymous remailing
returns and to see what headers I get back. It has been maybe 4 days now
since I began this experiment, some of the sites below have still not
remailed my test message.
My main curiosity in this quest is to determine what each header will look
like when the mail is recieved. I think this is important in determining
which remailer to use.
The below is the list of remailers with the "unique header to remailer" info
below each site number.
If you wish to discuss this matter further, please send a follow up
message to the cypher list with your address included and "Re: Unique
header". I'm really not too concerned about remaining anonymous (that is,
I will come out of hiding), I just want to see if this scheme is really
airtight!
Thanks!
-z
**Please take note of remailer 12 of this list.**
The typical header received looks similar to the below:
(I have removed the date, time, etc. to protect my privacy)
From [email protected] Thu Jul x 00:38:01 1993
Received: by ahost.some.school.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0/cc-ix.mc-1.5)
id AA02491; Thu, x Jul 93 19:00:54 -0500
Received: from kksys.mn.org by uum1.mn.org with bsmtp
(Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0oE6Du-00007JC; Thu,x Jul 93 00:21 CDT
Received: from rebma by kksys.mn.org with uucp
(Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0oE5jG-0007TsC; Thu,x Jul 93 00:50 CDT
Received: by rebma.rebma.mn.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #1)
id m0oE6nS-0002CzC; Thu, 8 Jul 93 17:58 PDT
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, x Jul 93 17:58 PDT
To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Subject: 9
Remailed-By: Mr. Nobody <[email protected]>
Status: O
=========This is where the list of remailers begins===========
*** Please keep in mind that in the below I included only the "unique to
*** remailer" parts of the header.***
1: [email protected]
From: Anonymous <[email protected]>
To: omitted
X-Remailed-By: Anonymous <[email protected]>
X-Ttl: 0
X-Notice: This message was forwarded by a software-
automated anonymous remailing service.
2: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
3: [email protected]
No response after 4 days
4: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: Eric Hollander <[email protected]>
5: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: Tommy the Tourist <tommy@out>
6: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Comments: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From
line. It is from an automated software remailing service operating at
that address. Please report problem mail to <[email protected]>.
7: [email protected]
From: nobody@eli-remailer
Remailed-By: Eli Brandt <[email protected]>
Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated.
8: [email protected]
No response after 4 days
9: [email protected] (this reply took almost 3+ days!)
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: Mr. Nobody <[email protected]>
10: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
11: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Comments: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From
line. It is from an automated software remailing service operating at
that address. Please report problem mail to <[email protected]>.
12: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: Anonymous <[email protected]>
Received: by tamsun.tamu.edu id AA04104
(5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for you@yourhost); Tue, 6 Jul 93 04:15:57 -0500
you@yourhost = your address! ...really!
13: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: Anonymous <[email protected]>
14: [email protected]
Received: by soda.berkeley.edu (5.65/KAOS-1)
id AA13859; Tue, 6 Jul 93 03:09:09 -0700
Received: by merde.dis.org (4.1/SMI-4.2)
id AA04354; Tue, 6 Jul 93 03:11:48 PDT
From: [email protected]
Remailed-By: remailer bogus account <[email protected]>
15: [email protected]
No response after 4 days
NOTES:
#1-#5 no encryption of remailing requests
#6-#14 support encrypted remailing requests
#15 special - header and message must be encrypted together
#9,#14,#15 introduce larger than average delay (not direct connect)
#9,#14,#15 running on privately owned machines