>What if (the cypherpunk community) comes out with a secure program that >doesn't rely on RSAREF? Can it be done? Bizdos and gang will _still_ hold the patent on RSA-style public key encryption. What you're suggesting is, in essence, exactly what Phil Zimmerman did with PGP 1.0. -- Lefty ([email protected]) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.