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Re: Government and Repression



I wrote:
> >In most of the world, indiscipline and bad behavior in the
> >prison will get you beaten, unofficially in Australia, officially
> >in Japan.  (Yes, *corporal punishment*, gasp, oh the horror).

[email protected] writes
> Umm, minor point, but just for my personal clarification, are you
> sure there's corporal punishment in Japan?  I seem to remember
> that during this whole Singapore thing, Japan was often raised
> as a model of a society with Singaporean crime rates and no
> corporal punishment.

There is no corporal punishment for crimes, but if you are
a prisoner and you misbehave, you will get wacked, just as
you will in most places.  In Japan they do not seem terribly
embarrassed about this.  I saw this on TV.  A bunch of prisoners
sitting perfectly still for a long period, and a guard with a cane
who wacked anyone who moved.  He did not wack them very hard.

It looked perfectly civilized to me, and I recommend the practice
to US prisons.

How can you maintain discipline in a prison otherwise?

Answer:  In US prisons there is no discipline.  Prisoners learn
to be aggressive, rude, and obnoxious to the guards and to each
other.  Good training to render them unemployable when they 
emerge.

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