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Re: Voluntary Disclosure of True Names
On Thu, 05 Sep 96 10:49:39 -0700, "Vladimir Z. Nuri"
<[email protected]> wrote:
I have seen it repeated here often that somehow anonymity is some kind
of a "right" that one should have in all kinds of different & important
transactions, not merely on "cyberspace debate societies". I see
here frequently the implication that *private*entities* that want to
enforce identity in their own transactions are somehow implementing
a corrupt, orwellian system. it sounded to me like that was all
Dyson was advocating.
The only time I've ever seen this point of view expressed on the list
is when you and the other tentacles claim someone else is wrong for
saying it (which they didn't, of course).
No one has ever said "private entities" shouldn't be allowed to
"enforce identity in their own transactions." This is exactly what
Tim and others have been saying _should_ happen. Dyson, however,
appears to be advocating some sort of identity tracking mechanism at
the network level so that _all_ transactions are identifiable (albeit
with some legal mechanism attempting to prevent "unauthorised"
identification) regardless of whether the individuals involved want to
enforce identity or not. Identification can be proved between the
individuals concerned on a truly voluntary basis, without any such
controls on the net.
also, I think you are being slightly disingenuous in masking your own
and other cpunks major objections to traceability, with the above,
"this is all we really want". what about situations
where the government requires you to give a physical identity for
some kind of a license etc? do you think there are no such valid
situations? is there any role for a government whatsoever in
CryptoAnarchist Utopia and if so, is there any situation in which
demanding physical identity is reasonable?
If the government, or any other entity, requires identification it can
be provided. I'm hard pressed to think of a situation in which the
legitimate business of government (if any) actually requires
identification. What do we need government to licence?
Paul Foley <[email protected]> --- PGPmail preferred
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