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Re: What's up with algebra.com? (fwd)
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:44:37 -0400
> From: John Young <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: What's up with algebra.com?
> What with the Feds now going after CJ for attempted
> murder of federal officials (film ad overkill!), Jeff Gordon
> soliciting cypherpunk subscribers to flesh that fancy,
> and one CDR operator flattered with a subpoena, it'd be
> prudent to have a way to check on whether a CDR node
> has been taken down or turned, and the operator hogtied
> with the system as evidence (or forced to run a sting to
> gather it), before a clamp's put on telling what's going on.
If anybody figures out a way to achieve such security I'd like to know.
As far as I know the only way to keep a box up is to be sure that there are
'works in progress' from users who are not directly involved in the
operation of the system. They are eligible for $1000/day each day they are
deprived of access without a warrant. If they are completely uninvolved it
*might* make a magistrate hesitate about generating a warrant.
As to my subpoena, it looks like I *may* have to do nothing more than sign an
affadavit saying that I didn't participate or discuss the above mentioned
issues with CJ when he was in Austin. I should know more later in the week.
I did find out that the reason they picked me was that when CJ was arrested
he happened to be carrying a copy of the post I did several months ago in
responce to a question regarding destroying floppy drives and computers
using a floppy disk. Apparently they thought I might be some sort of
mad-bomb designer or something. I have to assume that since I wasn't
arrested at the first interview they figured I was reasonably harmless
concerning assaults of the person or helping CJ in a material way.
As to there being wiretaps and permanent LEA monitors on the list, you betcha.
> May be too late, too late.
> Recall it's a major offense for revealing placement of a
> wiretap, surveillance or a covert investigation -- especially
> if you're assisting, willingly or unwillingly.
They can take SSZ down or run it themselves (hope they got somebody that
knows Linux 1.1.59 cause otherwise they won't be running it for long) but I
won't participate in entrapment. And I suspect, though I don't know, that my
arrest and lack of interaction with other users would set off flairs pretty
quickly in that case. How long it might take to percolate back to Cypherpunks
I don't have a clue.
One major aspect of all this that I have found particularly unsettling is
that I really don't have family or anybody for support. I think about the
only thing worse than imagining oneself sitting in a jail with no hope of
visitors, letters, etc. is a funeral with nobody there but the preacher.
On a related issue, I have found it somewhat amusing that all the Austin
Cpunks have scattered like a covey of quail. Only one of them even offered
to help (Muchas gracias for the lawyer referals!). I had one person call and
make sure that I knew they weren't at the meeting CJ attended. I'm seriously
considering dropping sponsorship of the local group (and I sure as hell won't
stop to help fix a flat now).
> Consider that there are 118,000 federal prisoners. That's a very
That means there are over 900,000 state, country, and municipal prisoners
since there are over 1M in jail today.
For a democracy that's incredibly damning. Legalize consenual crimes!
To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice.
The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate
Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ [email protected]
www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087
ps not crypto related but if you're a science book hound, check out:
Elementary Mechanics of Fluids
ISBN 0-486-63699-2 (Dover)
Physics by example: 200 problems and solutions
$? (I bought my copy used)