Re: Too much jerking off....

[Lizard <lizard@mrlizard.com>]

At 04:15 PM 1/9/00 -0500, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
>Lizard:
>
>	First of all, I already know how to crochet.  
>
>	Secondly, the moral disintegration of society is only a pagan's 
>idea of fun, not mine.  How would you like it if your little girl had to 
>run the risk of watching some pervert masturbating simply because she 
>wanted to go to the library to do research on antique crochet patterns?
>
And the liklihood of this risk is? I daresay it is somewhat less than the
liklihood of her being hit by a car.

In any event, your protestations would be more acceptable if you didn't
also consider that laws should be passed to prevent the 'risk' of that
child reading this mailing list, and wish to place those who post to it in
jail.

>	Masturbating in the presence of a minor child is a second degree 
>felony in the state of Florida.  Apparently, according to your 
>standards, you should be free to go out and commit similar second or 
>third degree felonies with no legal consequence.  Do you really think 
>that society has no legitimate interest in enforcing law?

I suspect that the number of such 'felons' is extremely minimal, and,
further, most belong in mental hospitals rather than prisons.

(The vast majority of laws serve no useful purpose and should be done away
with. The sole function of law is protect rights. Is there really such a
thing as a 'right' to not see an unpleasant sight? Would you jail those who
picked their nose or farted in public?)

  If you really 
>believe this law is morally unjust, I challenge you to go masturbate in 
>public and get arrested to protest the law, not just sit back and make 
>smug comments from the safety of your computer terminal.   
>
I also believe laws against gambling, prostitution, and heroin usage are
unjust. I have no desire to visit an illegal casino in the companionship of
a Woman of Easy Virtue and shoot up in order to protest such laws, nor do I
think anyone would accuse me of hypocrisy for being so unwilling.

In any event, you have just attempted to convince me to commit a felony.
What is the penalty for criminal incitement in your state? Will you be
turning yourself in, or shall I call the police. Jim Ray - you're a Florida
local. Care to do the honors?