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Better late than never, eh Stanton?
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>>From [email protected] Sun Aug 15 03:21:35 1993
>From: Stanton McCandlish <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: On The Inherent Evil of Electronic Democracy
>To: [email protected] (Paul L. Moses)
>Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 01:21:25 -0600 (MDT)
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>Quoth Paul L. Moses, verily I say unto thee:
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>- -=>Regarding the Electronic Democracy idea, I vote with Tim May. Look at the
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>Just the opposite here.
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>One factor has been missing from this discussion.
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>Representative "democracy" is a statist imposition.
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>One other factor:
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>The number of issues to be voted on is quite large. Even with easy access
>via cable-tv data networks, public voting kiosks, etc, no one will be able
>to keep up. This will immediately result in demand for LESS legislation,
>which is a good thing no matter how you look at it.
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>Simple requirements for quorums before a proposition comes up for voting
>would head off most goofy bills right from the start. If you have to have
>at least, say, 10% of the population to vote to ALLOW AN ISSUE TO EVEN BE
>VOTED ON, most idiot bills will be nipped in the bud. One other thing
>you'll see disappear is "private laws". Our congress wastes an incredible
>amount of time and money working on laws that affect only one corporation,
>or one small area. For one thing, most of this stuff is irrelevant as far
>as the Law of the Land goes. It's not something our legislature should be
>involved in. Let companies work out their own damn problems. For
>another, local-area laws should be handled by local areas. Period.
>In my opinion.
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>The main objection I keep seeing is that all them loonies will vote for
>stupid laws. I'd like to ask you how many of these people vote NOW? Not
>very many. The idiotic, the lazy, and the careless do not vote, by and
>large. The people that vote are the people that think about issues, and
>decide that they want to do something about them.
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>Anyway, when some of this comes about, and it is quite inevitable, I would
>hope that a very least e-voting gives the people veto power, to directly
>overturn anything passed by congress and the prez, and even the power to
>kill bills before they even get past the discussion stage. Add to that
>the right to directly propose legislation, provided there is a quorum, and
>I think that would be a good starting point.
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>If all Tim and others with the same views are upset about is that a sudden
>change could result in utter chaos, I have no argument with that. The
>changes must be gradual, so as to not cause a governmental backlash. I
>can see just installing the system and cutting congress out of the picture
>entirely. The resulting mess would be allowed to go on for about a month,
>before the pres declared martial law due to national emergency, and then
>it'd be all over. One thing that irritates the hell out of me about many
>anarch[o-capital]ists and libertarians, is an all or nothing stance. Some
>of you folks don't seem to clue to the ideas of compromise, gradual
>change, long-term planning, and strategic retreat to throw an enemy off
>balance. You aren't going to take the world by storm, and Tim's dire
>predictions of a hell hole that would result if such occured are right on
>the mark. Play our cards right, and we'll take the world by whispering breeze.
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