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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
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> From: Matthew James Gering <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone
> (fwd)
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:39:33 -0800
> > You missed my point. What I'm trying to point out is that no
> > government (or any other body, for that matter) can prevent
> > someone from doing something. All the state can do (and does,
> > if you look closely) is offer to punish anyone who disobeys it.
>
> Again that is simply incorrect, or do you wish to tell me that our military
> has not prevented the invasion of the continental US in this century, or
> that it did not prevent the Soviet Union from expanding across Europe? You
> cannot completely discount *deterrent force*, although it is greatly
> overrated.
Woah. This extension into foreign powers and such is an entirely different
venue. The entire discussion is based around the question of a government
and those citizens within it. When we start talking about multiple
government and multiple citizen sets the whole issue is orders of magnitude
more complex.
> Nor can a government use *retribution force* if it does not know the
> perpetrator.
Tell that to the hostages that were killed during the occupation of France.
> Your statement boils down to the government is not omnipotent. Well duh!
Agreed.
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