Just thought some people would want to know -- Detweiler has turned up under a new nym from the PENET server. Some posts to his "cypherwonks" list have recently appeared with the From line of From: [email protected] (CRaP) <[email protected]> (S.Boxx) Undoubtedly this will turn up elsewhere as well. Yours, A LOYAL TENTACLE OF MEDUSA