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Re: cypherpunks vs hacker

 In> Rather than debate semantics of the definition of "hacker," or ask
 In> others to suggest definitions, it might be better for interested folks
 In> to read some of the various books on the topic and then decide for
 In> themselves. Some of them are:

 In> - Levy, "Hackers," of course

   Very good history.

 In> - Haffner and Markoff, "Cyberpunk"



 In> - Sterling's book on hackers

   Hacker Crackdown.

 In> - any one (but not more) of the several Shimomura v. Mitnick books

   I think that Markoffs book on the incident was written beter then the 
   rest.

   I might also suggest:

   - Masters of Deception

   - The Cuckoos Egg by Stoll




   P.J.
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