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Re: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, jim bell wrote:
> At 01:51 PM 9/17/96 -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
> >>On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Steve Schear wrote:
> >>> Someone wrote:
> >>> We've all heard these arguments, but are they true? Who says so, and how
> >>> can they be certain? Jim's suggestion has never, to my knowledge, been
> >>> tried on a consistant, large, scale. When all conventional alternatives
> >>> have been tried and fail, what have we or the starving children got to
> >>> lose?
> >>I think "Lord of the Flies" answers this question quite well.
> >Does it? LOTF was fiction. Can you identify a recent instance in which a
> >non-governmental organization attempted to influence political/military
> >events via a concerted AP?
> As you understand, I really have to question anybody who would take an
> extraordinarily contrived work of fiction like LOTF and exrtrapolate from it
> as some sort of "answer" to AP. However, Unicorn is sufficiently confused
> that it's not surprising that this would come from him.
> While it's been well over two decades since I read it, LOTF engages in the
> artifice of separating out a handful of near-pre-adolescent boys, who don't
> seem to get along particularly well while stuck on an island after being
> shot down during a war. (Presumably, WWII.) It's hard to understand what
> kind of lesson we could learn from this, particularly since one person's
> opinion of what might happen should such an extraordinary and unlikely event
> occur can't be all that more significant or valuable than another.
> Or, what if such an event actually happened, and the outcome was quite
> different? What would that say about Golding's opinions? Or, suppose a
> similar event occurred, but instead of a dozen boys it was a co-ed college's
> students, or a few geriatrics, or a family, or a few middle-aged women,
> or...what? What, exactly, are we learning from one specific speculation
> that Golding happened to want to commit to paper?
> Unfortunately (or, perhaps _fortunately_?) I don't think we're going to hear
> from Unicorn why he thinks one particular dime novel is any more
> revelational about human behavior than any other.
Your "grasp" of literature gives the list my answer without me having to
say a word.
I notice you chose to ignore the factual political examples I gave. Not
that this surprises me. "Your" concept, of rule by terror, has thousands
of examples in historical context.
I simply refuse to debate the matter any longer as it is clear you are not
open to reasoned debate, nor, it would seem, are you clearly possessed of
> Jim Bell
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