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Re: Money-making ideas for Igor Chudov
aga <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> > "Igor 'FUCK MNE HARDER' Chudov @ home" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> algebra.com is a suspect domain.
Yes, Dr. Grubor - it's been implicated in Jan Isley's (spit) Usenet vote fraud:
]From: Jan Isley <[email protected]>
(spit)
]Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.invest,sci.econ,sci.econ.research,sci.stat.math
]Subject: RESULT: sci.finance.abstracts moderated passes 299:22
]Supersedes: <[email protected]>
]Followup-To: news.groups
]Date: 16 Jun 1996 20:53:15 -0400
]Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
]Lines: 475
]Sender: [email protected]
(spit)
]Approved: [email protected]
]Message-ID: <[email protected]>
]References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
]NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
]Archive-Name: sci.finance.abstracts
]
] RESULT
] moderated group sci.finance.abstracts passes 299:22
]
]sci.finance.abstracts results - 321 valid votes
]
] Yes No | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
]---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
] 299 22 | Yes Yes | Yes | sci.finance.abstracts
] 32 invalid votes
...
][ notes on the voter list:
]
] 31 "suspicious" votes from manifold.algebra.com were invalidated.
] Most of the acks bounced and no response was recieved after multiple
] attempts to verify the voters.
...
]
]Invalid ballots
]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
][email protected] Anton Prokofiev
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Bobby Lin
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Brad Brown
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Doug Hamilton
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Rock Dyer
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Greg Cooper
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Ronald Trecker
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Ken J. Hunter
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Elena Zaiceva
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Andrew McCaig
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Mel Lynch
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Mike Burke
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Milton Parrott
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Jerry Milman
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Mark Johnson
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Martin Klein
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Marina Sidorova
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Martin Unze
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Nastya
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Natasha K.
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Larry Owen
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Sergey Filippov
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Russell Cross
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Ron Henderson
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Anthony Del Vecchio
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] David Shoemaker
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Mikhail Tarutin
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Taras Leonoff
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Mikhail Volkov
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] James S. Whaley
] ! site invalidated
][email protected] Tim Willis
] ! site invalidated
Please consider declaring algebra.com and video-collage.com rogue sites.
> > > manifold::~==>premail -t [email protected]
> > > Chain: haystack;jam
> > > Subject: I urgently need a lot of money.
> > >
> > > Please share your money-making secrets, I am in a desperate need
> > > for cash.
> >
> > For shame! Igor Chewed-off disgraces his Chewish Mommy by even asking. Isn'
> > propensity for "gesheft" genetic? Here's another money-making idea for Igor
> >
> > Igor obtains a list of e-mail addresses of people interested in equity-rela
> > investments (e.g. by watching misc.invest.* and sending the posters / those
> > voted for their creation unsolicited e-mail; or by posting anonymous ads,
> > inviting the readers to reply to a reply block in order to receive 3 free
> > promotional issues of an investment advice newsletter; or even by starting
> > his own private financial derivatives mailing list). Igor divides the maili
> > list into 2^3=8 parts, and gives them exotic Russian-sounding names: Alekse
> > Boris, Vasilij, Grigorij, Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, Zoya.
> >
> > Igor then uses an anonymous remailer to spam everyone on his mailing list w
> > the 8 variants of the following message: "Congratulations! You have won 3 f
> > issued of the _Boris Investment Newsletter, published in Tulsa, Oklahoma, b
> > proud holder of a Master's Degree in Financial Engineering from the Moscow
> > State University. I predict that within the next month Adobe stock will go
> >
> > Instead of "Boris", Igor will substitute one of the 8 newsletter names; ins
> > of Adobe, he can use any volatile stock that's as likely to go up as down;
> > the predicted stock price movement will be "up" in the first four newslette
> > and "down" in the other four.
> >
> > One month later the stock in question is either up or down. Without loss of
> > generality, suppose that it's gone down. Aleksej, Boris, Vasilij, and
> > Grigorij's investment advice was wrong, they disappear from the face of the
> > earth, and the former recipients of their newsletters don't get bothered an
> > more. (Or they could be recycled for future scams; or they could be send th
> > remaining 2 issues of worthless advice, as promised.) On the other hand
> > Dmitrij, Elena, Zhenja, and Zoya guessed right, so this time they send out
> > new investment newsletter via the anonymous remailers:
> >
> > "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
> > from Zoya in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Last month I correctly predicted that Adobe w
> > have gone down. If you're smart, you've shorted Adobe's stock and made lots
> > money by now. This month I predict that Cisco will go _down as well."
> >
> > Again, Dmitrij and Elena predict that some other volatile stock goes up, wh
> > Zhenja and Zoya predict that it goes down. Suppose D&E are right. Igor leav
> > the Zh.&Z. partitions alone. One month later D&E's subscribers get letter #
> >
> > "Congratulations! You continue to receive the free investment advice newsle
> > from Elena in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Two months ago I predicted that Adobe would
> > down. I hope you sold it short. Last month I predicted that Cisco would go
> > I hope you bought it. This month I predict that Lucent will go _up."
> >
> > One month later one of the two is right, so its recipients get the fourth a
> > final e-mail from an anonymous remailer, this time using a reply block:
> >
> > "I've given you three free stock tips over the last 3 months which probably
> > made you a lot of money. Now that you've seen my track record, you'll want
> > continue receiving my free advice, but the free promotion is over. Please s
> > $20 in untraceable digital cash to this reply block to receive 6 future
> > issues."
> >
> > Quite a few people would risk the $20, but that would be the last they hear
> > from Igor. :-)
> >
> > (Alternatively, he can even e-mail 6 more issues of worthless advice to tho
> > who caughed up the $20, so they can't complain. It would be hard to prosecu
> > Igor without proving that all 8 newsletters were published by the same pers
> > who's been giving contradictory advice to different people.)
> >
> But what Law would you charge him with?
> Unless you could prove his "intent" I see no way that you
> could ever prove any case against him.
The intent is to defraud, but shouldn't absolute free speech protect fraud
and libel?
> > "Credibility is expendable." - John Gilmore
>
> He just says that because he spent his.
That's very true - he has none left whatsoever. What a sorry piece of work.
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