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Re: eternity-lite & cancel msgs
Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes:
> One issue with the system is that censors will issue cancel messages
> for the articles. Not too much which can be done about this. Some
> trends tend to help this problem:
The vast majority of cancels in the "control" newsgroup are the so-called
"third party cancels" (a.k.a. forgeries).
In the U.S. many major ISPs like America Online and Earthlink are ignoring
cancels outright. It's easy - start the latest version of INN with the
-C flag, or apply Dave Hayes's patches at http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet.
> Cancel message abuse by people running cancel bots reflecting their
> censorous views have resulted in some sites ignoring cancel messages.
Quite a few, I might add. The only reason why Demon processes cancels is
that Ade Lovett is a homosexual who wants to be able to censor "homophobic"
Usenet articles. :-)
Forging cancels is easy -- see the cancelbot I posted last year.
> Another aspect of the system is that it relies on news archival
> services such as dejanews and altavista; these presumably don't listen
> to cancel messages for already archived data (? guessing here). The
> archive maintainers presumably don't want to get involved in disputes
> over which old articles should be purged from their archive anyway.
Correct: none of the 3 major archival services (dejanews, altavista,
reference.com) delte articles based on cancel or supersedes once they
receive them.
However an author can explicitly ask dejanews to delete his articles.
All 3 now don't archive articles that say 'X-No-Archive: yes'.
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