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My new perspective on ITAR (was Re: Munitions shirt (again)
On Wed, 20 Sep 1995, Ian Goldberg wrote:
> So, Dave and I got free munitions shirts (they're different, though;
> the font is smaller and they have a bunch of X'd out Constitutional
> Amendments on the back; I think they ere designed by Joel Furr) for
> our bug find.
Good.
>
> So I'm wearing it today. The thing is, I live in International House,
> a residence that has 50% non-Americans.
>
> So, any consensus as to whether it's actually illegal to do so? I
> remember some disagreement a few weeks ago that AFAIK wasn't resolved.
>
> As far as I can tell, it's _technically_ illegal, but any LEO would be
> out of his mind to try to enforce it (it would have to be a Fed, too,
> wouldn't it? Or can regular city cops get you for violating export
> restrictions?).
>
> - Ian
>
Funny, this thread sounds awfully familiar. In fact, I think I wrote
almost this _exact same post_ about 3 weeks ago, just substituting
"Berkeley" for "Towson State University". I mentioned the fact that I
live in the International House of _my_ campus, and we discussed the
legality of my wearing it. We hashed over it for a few days, and never
really came to a real answer, since ITAR is rather vague in that area.
I might add, however, that two days ago I wore my RSA shirt to my sound
design class, where the guy I happened to sit down next to recognized it,
was familiar with what it stood for, and knew all about the Zimmerman
case; not because he was a crypto enthusiast or a comp sci major, but
because he works for customs at Baltimore-Washington International
Airport.
This event really changed my point of view considering ITAR... I figured
that it was just one of those dumb laws that _nobody_ really paid much
attention to except for the FBI and that was only because they were
looking for a way to nail Zimmerman for writing good crypto. I had
assumed that ITAR was something that customs agents/L. E. O's/etc.
learned about, took a test on it, then forgot about it the next day.
Interesting... they _really_ are serious, aren't they?
-=me=-
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